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post 20 Apr 2009, 21:02
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Yes a long time without any news about the JagCF, here comes two beautiful photos from the PCB :


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Just hoping SCPCD et Zerosquare will give you more infos in the next days wink.gif


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post 20 Apr 2009, 22:11
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Very exciting!


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post 20 Apr 2009, 23:02
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Yes, we finally got the PCBs from the manufacturer... the afternoon before the AC opening, in fact, so no time to solder the components (yet wink.gif )

What you see are the first 4 prototypes. Two of them are for SCPCD and me, to check that the hardware is working as intended. The remaining two will probably be used for network testing, and may be sold if there are collectors interested in them smile.gif

The pictures are not ideal, because the PCB were still packaged inside a transparent plastic film ; we didn't remove it to keep them protected until they're soldered. The whitish look on the pads is because of the silver plating (it was cheaper than gold plating, and it is a better conductor, actually). Besides the two sides shown, there are four internal copper layers.

And I won't tell how much those 4 PCBs cost us, but they're not exactly cheap biggrin.gif
(but it's only because of the low volume : they're much cheaper if you make several tenths of them)


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QUOTE (Zerosquare @ 20 Apr 2009, 23:02) *
if there are collectors interested in them smile.gif


Where on earth have you seen collectors in the Jaguar community?


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post 20 Apr 2009, 23:18
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...about everywhere ? biggrin.gif


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post 21 Apr 2009, 04:35
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QUOTE
here comes two beautiful photos from the PCB:


That is a beautiful layout! The placement is very symmetrical which is a sign of a well thought-out design. And the routing is nice and direct. I guess that's the advantage of FPGAs. biggrin.gif

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P.S. Built-in USB support? Nice!
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post 21 Apr 2009, 08:29
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CITATION(SebRmv @ 21 Apr 2009, 00:11) *
Where on earth have you seen collectors in the Jaguar community?

Versailles, France...
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post 21 Apr 2009, 09:45
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Well that's pretty awesome guys! Nice! biggrin.gif cool.gif

Now, if the testing goes well and you do not have to make any more changes to the PCB, how long will it be before you can order a decent size run of them and start selling? tongue.gif Or is it just a random thing totally dependent on how much free time may or may not be available to both of you?

Question 2: When/If you order a larger run, can the PCB manufacturer solder all the components on for you so it will be faster and easier to populate the boards, saving work and time for you?

I bet there were some significant changes on these PCBs compared to that other Proto CF cart you guys have, that I saw demonstrated at one of the Jag shows and in some older pictures.
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post 21 Apr 2009, 10:28
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It's very impressive ! Good job, but the most hard will be arrive (solding-iron). Good luck !
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post 21 Apr 2009, 13:39
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Looks very nice! Excellent layout, very professional! I hope it will be finished soon and therefor wish you all the best!
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post 21 Apr 2009, 16:22
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Looks very promising.

I hope I can buy one soon. Are you already taking pre-orders?
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post 21 Apr 2009, 16:27
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Can't wait to order my CF biggrin.gif


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post 21 Apr 2009, 20:47
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Thanks for the kind comments smile.gif

kskunk > They're fake USB ports. wink.gif
Actually, they're PS/2 ports with the equivalent of an embedded USB-to-PS/2 plug adapter (a lot of USB mice and keyboards also support the PS/2 protocol). We couldn't use the standard mini-DIN connectors, because there wasn't enough space left on the PCB. We also considered implementing real USB ports, but it would have made the hardware (and software) too complex. For those who would like to use real PS/2 devices, PS/2-to-USB plug adapters also exist.

ovalbugmann > Free time is indeed an important factor, so we prefer not to announce any release date... not yet, at least smile.gif
And the production run will be machine-soldered. SCPCD says he'd be able to solder them by hand, but I don't want him to end up in an psychiatric asylum biggrin.gif

atari_fan > No pre-orders yet. We want to be sure everything is OK first. smile.gif


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post 21 Apr 2009, 20:52
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QUOTE (Fadest @ 21 Apr 2009, 08:29) *
Versailles, France...


Right, you caught me laugh.gif


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post 21 Apr 2009, 22:24
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post 21 Apr 2009, 23:42
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Nice work, guys! They look great. Good luck with the prototype phase! smile.gif
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post 22 Apr 2009, 01:01
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Whoo hooo!!
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post 22 Apr 2009, 08:02
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Great! Thanks for the info Zero - yes machine soldered components to easily populate will be nice! I await the CF's fruition with a fervor & ardor. cool.gif
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post 22 Apr 2009, 16:28
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QUOTE (Zerosquare @ 21 Apr 2009, 21:47) *
Thanks for the kind comments smile.gif

atari_fan > No pre-orders yet. We want to be sure everything is OK first. smile.gif



OK, I will be eagerly waiting in line...

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post 2 May 2009, 01:48
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yes.gif Let us know how testing and evaluation of this revised, and hopfully final, CF Prototype goes for you guys. I am optimistic that there are no major hurdles left to jump.

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