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 20 Apr 2009, 21:02
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 Another world  Group: Administrators Posts: 3.067 Joined: 13-5 05 From: Alsace, France Member No.: 2  |
Yes a long time without any news about the JagCF, here comes two beautiful photos from the PCB :
Just hoping SCPCD et Zerosquare will give you more infos in the next days  GT Turbo 
-------------------- Come do the Poulpe dance with us! (Sh3-RG)
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20 Apr 2009, 22:11
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Rick dangerous Group: Level1 Posts: 1.505 Joined: 23-1 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 31 |
Very exciting!
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http://removers.atari.org/ |
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20 Apr 2009, 23:02
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 Rick dangerous Group: Administrators Posts: 1.984 Joined: 4-1 06 Member No.: 30 |
Yes, we finally got the PCBs from the manufacturer... the afternoon before the AC opening, in fact, so no time to solder the components (yet
) What you see are the first 4 prototypes. Two of them are for SCPCD and me, to check that the hardware is working as intended. The remaining two will probably be used for network testing, and may be sold if there are collectors interested in them  The pictures are not ideal, because the PCB were still packaged inside a transparent plastic film ; we didn't remove it to keep them protected until they're soldered. The whitish look on the pads is because of the silver plating (it was cheaper than gold plating, and it is a better conductor, actually). Besides the two sides shown, there are four internal copper layers. And I won't tell how much those 4 PCBs cost us, but they're not exactly cheap  (but it's only because of the low volume : they're much cheaper if you make several tenths of them) -------------------- « Mon PC on dirait un Amiga tellement c'est instable » – GT Turbo
« Soit A un niveau d'absurdité, il existe un post N tel que... » – Azrael et al., 2006 |
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20 Apr 2009, 23:11
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Rick dangerous Group: Level1 Posts: 1.505 Joined: 23-1 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 31 |
QUOTE (Zerosquare @ 20 Apr 2009, 23:02)  if there are collectors interested in them Where on earth have you seen collectors in the Jaguar community? -------------------- Seb/The Removers
http://removers.atari.org/ |
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20 Apr 2009, 23:18
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Rick dangerous Group: Administrators Posts: 1.984 Joined: 4-1 06 Member No.: 30 |
...about everywhere ?
-------------------- « Mon PC on dirait un Amiga tellement c'est instable » – GT Turbo
« Soit A un niveau d'absurdité, il existe un post N tel que... » – Azrael et al., 2006 |
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21 Apr 2009, 04:35
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 Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 14-9 08 From: Atari Mecca Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 208 |
QUOTE here comes two beautiful photos from the PCB: That is a beautiful layout! The placement is very symmetrical which is a sign of a well thought-out design. And the routing is nice and direct. I guess that's the advantage of FPGAs. - KS P.S. Built-in USB support? Nice! |
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21 Apr 2009, 08:29
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 Super sprint Group: Level1 Posts: 406 Joined: 1-2 06 From: Orléans ou presque Member No.: 32 |
CITATION(SebRmv @ 21 Apr 2009, 00:11) Where on earth have you seen collectors in the Jaguar community? Versailles, France... -------------------- Smashing Poulp'ins !!!
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21 Apr 2009, 09:45
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 Great giana sister Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 10-11 06 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 149 |
Well that's pretty awesome guys! Nice!
 Now, if the testing goes well and you do not have to make any more changes to the PCB, how long will it be before you can order a decent size run of them and start selling?  Or is it just a random thing totally dependent on how much free time may or may not be available to both of you?Question 2: When/If you order a larger run, can the PCB manufacturer solder all the components on for you so it will be faster and easier to populate the boards, saving work and time for you? I bet there were some significant changes on these PCBs compared to that other Proto CF cart you guys have, that I saw demonstrated at one of the Jag shows and in some older pictures. |
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21 Apr 2009, 10:28
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 Great giana sister Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 29-9 05 From: Argenteuil (95) FRANCE Member No.: 25 |
It's very impressive ! Good job, but the most hard will be arrive (solding-iron). Good luck !
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21 Apr 2009, 13:39
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Looks very nice! Excellent layout, very professional! I hope it will be finished soon and therefor wish you all the best!
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21 Apr 2009, 16:22
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Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 21-4 09 From: Germany Member No.: 219 |
Looks very promising.
I hope I can buy one soon. Are you already taking pre-orders? |
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21 Apr 2009, 16:27
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Super sprint Group: Level1 Posts: 638 Joined: 21-6 05 Member No.: 10 |
Can't wait to order my CF
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21 Apr 2009, 20:47
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Rick dangerous Group: Administrators Posts: 1.984 Joined: 4-1 06 Member No.: 30 |
Thanks for the kind comments
kskunk > They're fake USB ports. Actually, they're PS/2 ports with the equivalent of an embedded USB-to-PS/2 plug adapter (a lot of USB mice and keyboards also support the PS/2 protocol). We couldn't use the standard mini-DIN connectors, because there wasn't enough space left on the PCB. We also considered implementing real USB ports, but it would have made the hardware (and software) too complex. For those who would like to use real PS/2 devices, PS/2-to-USB plug adapters also exist. ovalbugmann > Free time is indeed an important factor, so we prefer not to announce any release date... not yet, at least And the production run will be machine-soldered. SCPCD says he'd be able to solder them by hand, but I don't want him to end up in an psychiatric asylum atari_fan > No pre-orders yet. We want to be sure everything is OK first.
-------------------- « Mon PC on dirait un Amiga tellement c'est instable » – GT Turbo
« Soit A un niveau d'absurdité, il existe un post N tel que... » – Azrael et al., 2006 |
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21 Apr 2009, 20:52
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Rick dangerous Group: Level1 Posts: 1.505 Joined: 23-1 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 31 |
QUOTE (Fadest @ 21 Apr 2009, 08:29) Versailles, France... Right, you caught me 
-------------------- Seb/The Removers
http://removers.atari.org/ |
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 21 Apr 2009, 22:24
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I will say it again!
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21 Apr 2009, 23:42
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 Great giana sister Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 2-5 06 From: SFO Member No.: 45 |
Nice work, guys! They look great. Good luck with the prototype phase!
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22 Apr 2009, 01:01
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Whoo hooo!!
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22 Apr 2009, 08:02
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Great giana sister Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 10-11 06 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 149 |
Great! Thanks for the info Zero - yes machine soldered components to easily populate will be nice! I await the CF's fruition with a fervor & ardor.
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22 Apr 2009, 16:28
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Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 21-4 09 From: Germany Member No.: 219 |
QUOTE (Zerosquare @ 21 Apr 2009, 21:47) Thanks for the kind comments atari_fan > No pre-orders yet. We want to be sure everything is OK first. OK, I will be eagerly waiting in line... 
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2 May 2009, 01:48
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Great giana sister Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 10-11 06 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 149 |
 Let us know how testing and evaluation of this revised, and hopfully final, CF Prototype goes for you guys. I am optimistic that there are no major hurdles left to jump.
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