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  1. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Yes, for the moment, it is not really usable, but it is the fault of aln. How the hell can you use these tools on Windows? Has someone managed to get the latest sln version from Subqmod website? Maybe the support of *.a files has been added.
  2. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    In theory, aln uses the environment variable ALNPATH to look for libraries. However, I can't manage to define/read environment variable in dosbox. I tried: set ALNPATH=c:\jlibc\lib echo %ALNPATH% and the "echo" says "%ALNPATH%" instead of the expected result.
  3. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Ok, the right command line (on DOSBOX) is aln.exe -a 4000 x x -rq -v -v -v -w -e -o example4.cof crt0.o example4.o data.o display.o interrupt.o sound.o rmvlib.a jlibc.a libgcc.a (I assume that everything is in the same path for simplicity... next step will be to indicate the different paths to ALN) one issue with dosbox is that the size of the command line is limited (the line above is too big!)
  4. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Hi, I quickly tested on my windows this evening. Unfortunately aln cannot be run on Windows 64 bits. I then tried with sln 0.1.4 (not the latest version, because I didn't managed to get it from Subqmod website). Unfortunately, this version of sln is not able to understand the archive files (*.a). I'll try with dosbox and cross the fingers.
  5. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Ok, great news. I will try to continue the tutorial quickly. However, I may not have time until next monday... By the way, where can I get windows version of aln/madmac ?
  6. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Ok, I stop here for today. Please keep me informed if this works on your setup. The difficult part will be to invoke aln Note: the gcc -c command in the previous message is not exactly what should be typed (some compiler flags should be put) but this permits to test if this works. The good command is: gcc -mc68000 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -msoft-float -funroll-loops -c -I f:\gcc-68k\jlibc\include -I f:\gcc-68k\rmvlib\include -I f:\gcc-68k\cygwin\usr\local\m68k-aout\lib\gcc-lib\m68k-aout\3.3.6\include example4.c Don't be afraid if you get some warnings...
  7. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Part 3 Test compilation with GCC ========================= 1-Get an example from the Removers website In the following, I assume that you have chosen example4.tar.gz 2-Uncompress the archive. I assume you uncompressed the archive in f:\gcc-68k\example4 (shame on me, the archive does not create a directory example4) 3-Set your environment PATH variable so that gcc find its binaries. set PATH=%PATH%;F:\gcc-68k\cygwin\usr\local\m68k-aout\m68k-aout\bin set PATH=%PATH%;F:\gcc-68k\cygwin\usr\local\m68k-aout\lib\gcc-lib\m68k-aout\3.3.6 4-Compile example4.c F:\gcc-68k\example4>gcc -c -I f:\gcc-68k\jlibc\include -I f:\gcc-68k\rmvlib\include -I f:\gcc-68k\cygwin\usr\local\m68k-aout\lib\gcc-lib\m68k-aout\3.3.6\include example4.c This should produce example4.o!
  8. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Ok part 2 Install Removers libraries ========================== 1-Get latest binary build of jlibc and rmvlib. 2-Uncompress the two archives. In the sequel, I assume that you have uncompressed these archives as follows: - jlibc is in f:\gcc-68k\jlibc - rmvlib is in f:\gcc-68k\jlibc
  9. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Ok, here is the first step of the recipe (tried on Windows 7 - 64 bits: note that cygwin is not installed on my windows) This one deals with Cross GCC installation. Install Cross GCC compiler ========================== 1-Get xgcc-3.3.6-m68k.tar.bz2 from The Removers web site. 2-Decompress the archive to the wanted directory. 3-Open a command console [Windows]+[R] cmd 4-Go to the directory where you uncompressed the archive. cd path\to\uncompressed\archive In the following, I assume that gcc has been uncompressed in F:\gcc-68k So, I did f: cd f:\gcc-68k 5-Go into cygwin subdirectory (windows binary is in it) cd cygwin 6-Copy Cygwin DLLs to C:\Windows (you may need administrator rights) cp dll\cygiconv-2.dll C:\Windows cp dll\cygintl-3.dll C:\Windows cp dll\cygwin1.dll C:\Windows 7-Try gcc usr\local\m68k-aout\m68k-aout\bin\gcc.exe -v Expected output is: Using built-in specs. Configured with: ../gcc-3.3.6/configure --prefix=/usr/local/m68k-aout --enable-languages=c --target=m68k-aout Thread model: single gcc version 3.3.6
  10. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Ok, I will have a look at it after my musical session I will test on Windows 7 - 64 bits
  11. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Hi, sorry, I did not get time to answer before. The best advice I could give is if you are running on windows, please take the binary distribution of jlibc and rmvlib ! (I think rebuilding them on windows is a nightmare in the current state) Second, take the cross gcc on my website. It should run on a standalone Windows (ie without cygwin) as long as you copy the included DLL files (that comes from cygwin) in the right directory (probably something resembling to C:\System) Try to run gcc -v in a command shell for instance. You also have to copy the header files of my lib (ie the *.h) at a place where the cross gcc will find them. The difficult part is to get madmac and aln running on Windows. If you plan to develop only in C, then you just need aln. Otherwise madmac is also needed (obviously). The idea is to use the cross gcc to produce object files. Then, thanks to aln, you link them against my libs and it produces magically a Jaguar executable Maybe you can use sln and smac, but I never tested this setting myself. Otherwise, I believe that madmac and aln work under dosbox. So if you open a dosbox console, and assuming you have the right path gcc -v foo.c -> produces foo.o (for the options passed to gcc, you may have a look at the Makefile I give with the examples) ... and then aln rmvlib.a foo.o ... (once again, have a look at one of the Makefile furnished with the examples to get the right command line) You may also have a look at this webpage (sadly in french) http://removers.free.fr/spip/?92-je-veux-d...opper-sur-atari It contains probably some useful hints. Hope this helps. -- One thing that is missing on windows is the GNU Make tool and the bash shell. (that's why it is probably a nightmare to rebuild my libs from the sources on Windows) Regarding make, I will try to investigate a bit in the direction of CMake, which seems to be a good candidate to replace make (and which is portable).
  12. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Argh, you have chosen the hard way: using Windows Maybe you could first check on belboz website... I believe he has compiled a working dev environment that includes my library. (http://www.hillsoftware.com/atari/index.html) Otherwise, we'll try to do it (and document the process) together.
  13. Zero 5 killer !!!

    Avec un peu de retard, excellent anniversaire!
  14. Getting started using C on the Jaguar

    Hi, I have released these libraries under the LGPL license. I hope this license will not bother you. Otherwise tell me and we'll find a deal. Regarding the interaction between C & ASM, I think Zerosquare has basically said everything. To see on a real example, you may wish to inspect the example4 available on my website. I have added a small example in assembly that call the sound driver to replay a sample. For the installation issues, what is your setting? Windows? Linux? In any case, do not hesitate to ask precise questions, I will be pleased to help you. Best, Seb
  15. Gt Is The Man Of The Day

    Bon anniv' !
  16. Reboot : 1 JagCD : 0

    This is just brilliant! Congratulations!
  17. Cd Encryption Via Skunkboard

    Excellent news! Can't wait to get my hands on it!
  18. Cd Encryption Via Skunkboard

    Here is the current state of my source files (this does not work). cden16.tar.gz
  19. I intended to open a special thread on Jagware to answer possible questions about the Removers library. As SCPCD suggested the same thing yesterday, let's do it! In this thread, please post your questions/bug reports/... I guess installation issues should be kept apart from this thread.
  20. Q&A about the Removers library

    Thanks for your kind support. Just recall that my library is just a piece of code, so it can be interfaced with other piece of code, thanks to ALN. The header files (.h files) just describes the interface of all the functions provided by my library in a C style. Up to you programmers to understand them to use them through your favorite language (eg assembly, C, ot whatever). (all that you need to know is the argument passing convention: - everything is passed on stack -integers are assumed to be 32 bits long -and result is given back in d0 -d2-d7/a2-a7 are preserved but nothing is guaranteed for d0-d1/a0-a1 ) The keypoint is to use ALN to glue everything together in order to produce a Jaguar executable. As long as you produce object files that can be understood by ALN, then "this is a bingo" So to answer your question, yes, I think it must be possible to use an Atari computer to program the Jaguar with my library. (even if I don't know the exact setup ) About C++, I should investigate this one day. This could be convenient to have support also for this language (even if it might be too heavy for the poor 68k) In particular, for C++, some runtime support (memory management and classes) has to be added. For sake of simplicity, I disabled C++ support in the cross gcc I distribute.
  21. Q&A about the Removers library

    Not yet possible, if I remember correctly
  22. Another Birthday Yes !!

  23. Happy Birthday

    Happy birthday, a bit late.
  24. Q&A about the Removers library

    I would say nothing really special. Of course, do not make write access to the DATA section (nor the TEXT section). Regarding your previous question, actually this is not completely clear where global variables are allocated. For sure, if they are not initialized in the C code, then they will go in BSS section (but remember that crt0 will erase the BSS section at the very beginning of the program) Otherwise, I guess it's rather in the DATA section, so be careful with these!
  25. Q&A about the Removers library

    global variables are allocated in BSS the heap (for malloc) is beginning at the end of the bss section